i am wondering whether it's worth it. >> commissioner renne. >> i -- when i read that, it struck me that the way it's presently structured, it says, a show-cause hearing. but when you read, at the meeting we can either, a commissioner can hear it or appoint a hearing officer or one of the commissioners to hear it. to hear the show-cause hearing. i guess i had thought that the way to do it, when a referral it will be placed on the calendar at the next regular meeting. or a special meeting. as a matter to be then set for a hearing. either before the full commission at its next hearing.